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GenoTex	I realize WHERE I am, and that posting a thought like this, on this board, might be almost 'sacrilege'...but........ what the heck! I wonder if I would put up with this stuff if it was anything BUT a prowler.... and should I? It really makes me wonder if it's worth the hassle! Perhaps just 3-wks withdrawal is getting to me.. but still... I DO wonder! What if............. would I do this for any other car? and more importantly .... what WOULD I do if it was 'any' car! Would I be willing to just sit back and watch them replace an engine with another IDENTICAL engine (no modifications made to improve/solve a known problem) and just say 'yeah, sure, no problem'? Lemon laws are there.. I guess it's a question of whether or not to exercise same. Your thoughts appreciated! Truly! Thanks.
Marty Usher	Geno - I can identify with your thinking, to a point. I decided to "beef up" my engine parts so they would withstand the wear and tear of nitrous use because I did not want to drive without power enhancements. I chose to have the lower engine toatlly gone through and the speed shop found nothing wrong after 56,000 miles of my hard driving (and nitrous use) All my upgraded parts were in top of engine. My point is - only SOME lower engines are breaking and if DC is replacing under warranty and covering again and you do not want to pay $$$ for performance upgrade, I wouldn't worry about it. I can still understand your frustration, but mechanical things break. At least DC isn't fighting you over repairs. Hope you get back Prowling soon. Marty
Randy Cobb	GenoTex: If the prowler was my daily driver, I'm sure I would not be a forgiving as I am. I view my prowler as a big boy toy and can put up with the nuances far better than if I had to depend on it everyday. When I was young I had friends that had MGs that they worked on often. The MGs had little headroom, were hard to get in and out of, small trunks, etc. (sound familiar?), but my buds said the small aggrevations were worth it. Maybe the MG story is not a proper analogy, but I think I've made my point. ------------------
tangled up in BLUE	Hey, you put up with leaks, rattles, no trunk space to speak of, not counting other issues these cars have, WHATS AN ENGINE ....I know EXACTLY how you feel...have been lucky with the various Kats I have owned....but in the long run, I would say YES, it is worth all the hassles to own and drive a Prowler....I just bought another DC product that went in for an engine rebuild with only 10 (TEN) miles on the odometer....but I also had some major performance mods done at the same time, so YES, it also seemed worth it.....I guess we are all just crazy for buying these cars in the first place....get it fixed and continue Prowlin ....
CTProwler	Fix it forget it. If it gets to the point where you feel its not worth it, then sell it. ------------------
KlasKat	One of the things you might think on about the Lemon laws is that if you replace the engine they may try to show that on any VIN inspection for the car. When I was looking for a Prowler to buy, I did a check on every one that I was possibly interested in buying and I did find 2 that very shady dealers were trying to pawn off. I was very glad I did my homework or I might have neded up with one that would have had nothing but problems. Just suggesting you check with the dealer who is replacing your engine on how that works, hope it all works out for you .
GenoTex	yup yup yup ! You're right... just having a weak moment... speakin of weak.. hope to be at woodward at the end of THIS week! Wish me well... gaskets Supposed to be in TODAY! wooohoo! Thx for the moral support...
GenoTex	oh boy oh boy oh boy.... Gaskets came in... and put in.... NOW we have a 'tensioner' problem... there is a 'tensioner' set-up, consisting of two parts... a round 'innerspring'-lookin thingy (the technical term) and a shaft that goes 'through' from the outside to inside of engine which holds the tension of that other "thingy"... (Help from tech would be cool)... in any case.. ... the pair of these two parts holds the tension on the serpentine belt... another delay. The two (old/new/ or new/old combinations)combined together make four possibilities, NONE of which work! .... Another part yet to come?!?!??!??! WOW This message has been edited by GenoTex on 08-12-2003 at 04:18 PM
GenoTex	Any of you "motorheads" know anything about this tensioner that I should know at this point? Does it need to be 'slack-free'? Thanks a bunch!
Steve T	You might try e-mailing Neal [neal6180@hotmail.com](he just replaced the engine in my Silver Prowler and did a great job!) about the tensioner problem. I know you have been waiting quit a while but it will be worth it when you get it back. ------------------ Steve and Debbie Thomas 2002 Candy Red Prowler 2001 Orange Prowler 2001 Silver Prowler 2003 SRT-10 Viper Red 2004 Titanium Gray RX-8 2003 911 Porsche Twin Turbo 2002 Yellow ZO6 Vette 2002 35th Anniversary Camaro SS Convertible 2002 H1 Hummer 1970 Black Chevy SWB Pick up 1969 Garnet Red Camaro SS 350 1967 Hugger Orange Camaro 400 1955 Yellow Chevrolet Truck
Marty Usher	Geno - in the old days (I really hate that term) we use to adjust belts with xxx amount of slack. Now they have a tension pressure gauge. The times I put the belts back on the Prowler I tightened son there was a little slack but not enough for the belts to slip. It is most important to get the pulleys aligned.